. He would tolerate anything for a little bit. Historically in his life, it was always done by himself. Oswald and Ferrie also both occupied offices at the small building then standing at 544 Camp St., the address stamped on the pro-Castro leaflets Oswald passed out in August 1963 in downtown New . The best-selling author of The Commission: The Uncensored History of the 9/11 Investigation offers a groundbreaking new history of the Kennedy assassination. To me, you can’t reach but one conclusion. You look at the factual data, you look at the rifle, you look at the pistol ownership, you look at his note about the Walker shooting. …. When Lee came back to Fort Worth, what kind of spirits was he in, and what kind of hopes did he have for his new life here? Robert Oswald's handwritten report to Bardwell Odum regarding Marina. They didn’t know for sure if he was an agent or not. FRONTLINE is a registered trademark of WGBH Educational Foundation. What would it be? Only McDonald's grip on the barrel prevented the gun from firing. There was a discrepancy in the contract that Marina noted–since she could read English–and discussed this issue in English with Robert. Additional funding is provided by the Abrams Foundation; the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation; Park Foundation; and the FRONTLINE Journalism Fund with major support from Jon and Jo Ann Hagler on behalf of the Jon L. Hagler Foundation, and additional support from Koo and Patricia Yuen. Maybe the next time he went to the library, he would follow up on it, and say “Well, let’s really see what this is about.” That to me is very plausible for him to do. Don't think I called you a `sheep' - you did claim that Dale Myers is as such, though. Sir Oswald Ernald Mosley, 6th Baronet (16 November 1896 - 3 December 1980) was a British politician who rose to fame in the 1920s as a Member of Parliament and later in the 1930s, having become disillusioned with mainstream politics, became the leader of the British Union of Fascists (BUF). But, to be honest, I really can't say. I don’t know at what age Mother verbalized the effect that she felt he was a burden to her. Robert also tell us that he along with the whole Oswald family were taken into Secret Service "Protective Custody" on . It's unknown what Marina Oswald did with this large amount of money or for that matter, where the mysterious men of Tex-Italia Films acquired the funds. We will take steps to block users who repeatedly violate our commenting rules, terms of use, or privacy policies. An accident, a suicide, a murder. That is when you know you are on the trail of the truth. Robert did too. When I returned home from work that evening, I asked him about it, and he said, “Well, everything went all right. Somehow, somebody never realized what the Sam Hill was going on. An interesting line of thought never explored. I think he was surprised when he stepped off the plane in Dallas Field — he asked me, “What, no reporters?” I said, “Yes. Or he just walked the streets, ride the subways. Here are five things you may not know about the assassination of the 35th president of the United States: 1. The Trial of Lee Harvey Oswald: Directed by Gordon Davidson, David Greene. He’s failing in his marriage and in his attempts to do whatever he wants to do. Anytime they brought anything up that pertained to the assassination of the president and the shooting of the police officer, he knew nothing about it. Found insideee Harvey Oswald was born October 18, 1939 to Robert Oswald (born in 1896) and Marguerite Clavier Pic Oswald (born in 1907). Lee was their second child. You look at that last year — his work, and his family, trying to go to Cuba, trying to go back to Russia. Transcripts of the hearings show the Commissioners struggled more with CE399 as a piece of evidence than anything else and they . Thus, White had been forced to kill his partner.' - Sam Giancana and Chuck Giancana, Double Cross, 1991 ***** J.D. … When he first approached the divided cubicles and I picked up the telephone on my side, he picked up his. Marguerite Oswald said before the Warren Commission that her son, Lee Harvey Oswald, was in her words, “a government agent.” And there lies the crux of it all. Robert Oswald wrote a book called "Lee: A Portrait of Lee Harvey Oswald". Publicly, he has always stood by the official story and kept a low profile over the years. He seemed to really get involved with it and hang onto it after the programs were over. New York City. To try to understand why Lee did what he did on Nov. 22 is a cumulative effect of all his past plans and efforts and failures. “We’ll go out and get a hamburger.”. He’s already tried living with Mother for about a week to 10 days, and that went the way it usually goes. He was on his own in libraries. She has no control over him. . But she certainly conveyed it to John and I at very early ages. Upon returning from Korea, he met and married Veda Mercer on November 21, 1956 in Ft. Worth, Texas. Tell me about that, and what his attitude is and the kinds of things you talked about. Six weeks later, they were married at the home of her uncle, who worked for Soviet domestic intelligence. That’s almost unbelievable. The mind tells me one thing, and the heart tells me something else. After marrying Oswald and immigrating to America, Marina told a friend, Katya Ford, who was part of the Dallas Russian exile community, that her husband Lee had defected while working at a trade exhibition in Moscow. In December of 1963 Robert gave FBI S.A. Barnwell Odom a 15-page statement and in it he notes meeting with Marina to discuss a management contract she was about to sign with Jim Martin (who briefly became her lover). Yet the images from November 1963 remain haunting, blurred into our national consciousness. Formerly PR11611. He wasn’t present when they took a head count [at the Texas School Book Depository]. There have been many biographies of Oswald, some of them good, some adequate, and some downright poor. …, Finally, I guess, I couldn’t stand it anymore. Robert didn’t believe there was a conspiracy. Robert Osborne, who died today at age 84, was beloved by movie fans for his work as the primary host on the Turner Classic Movies cable channel, but little was generally known about his personal life. People can independently assess the guilt of someone based on their own review of the evidence: this is what occurred in the O.J. They set up LHO even though he did shady things. Researcher John Armstrong started digging into this and ran across a Frank Kudlaty, the assistant principle at Stripling. This is also known as "family reunion" before the Big Event that occurs a year later, to the day. Robert Oswald was a distant cousin of Confederate general Robert E. Lee and served in the Marines during World War I. Robert died of a heart attack two months before Lee was born. Robert thought that his brother might tell him the truth. … Marina had gone over there to live with somebody until he got established over there. Whatever it took. I’ve managed to keep it quiet.” That was it. The director of the Miller Funeral Home was a man named Paul Groody. I pick and choose now, after so many years, who is reliable. He had the presence of mind then to do that. Rev. ed. of: Were we controlled? / Lincoln Lawrence. The dividing line, both temporally and in content, was Philip Melanson's Spy Saga.Released in 1990, Spy Saga was the first work to make a book length case that Oswald was intimately tied up with the world of . Born Robert Edward Lee Oswald in New Orleans, Louisiana, on April 7, 1934 to Robert Edward Lee Oswald, Sr., and Marguerite Frances Claverie, Robert spent his youth in Louisiana with his brothers Lee and John Pic before joining the Marine Corps in 1952 at age 18. This is not true and there is no evidence to support this. It is drawn from Reclaiming History: The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy, a monumental and historic account of the event and all the conspiracy theories it spawned, by Vincent Bugliosi, legendary prosecutor of Charles Manson and ... That makes you a sheep. He, for whatever reason, was chosen to take LHO out. I have read in other places that the notes were burned. She is wanting to go back to Russia. If memory serves me I think one owns a B. But, the man behind the jail room glass was disturbingly machine-like, unnaturally detached from the predicament he found himself in whether innocent or guilty. • After an earlier arrest, in August 1963 in New Orleans, Oswald . So Robert Oswald remains a mystery in this affair. https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/appendix-11.html. Robert Oswald was being interviewed and was talking about finding out that his "brother" had been arrested for Kennedy's murder. Everyone speaks as if LHO was tried and convicted. Jack Ruby was silenced just as LHO was. She had been overbearing or whatever. What ever happened to LHO's family? … He says he got that at the theater, and they hadn’t been mistreating him since then. He played an awful lot of hooky up there. In your mind, are there questions about whether Lee shot President Kennedy? Armstrong was not the first writer to suggest that Oswald was actually two people: Entries that are unsigned or are "signed" by someone other than the actual author will be removed. He was using his own imagination. …. Maybe even a different Lee altogether that wanted to be called Harvey. It’s odd that Robert is going along with this. I said, “If you told me everything you’ve done, it seems to me you have a case that you could perhaps get a reversal on that, that you did not do anything that they anticipated you done.” … I said, “If that never came about, if you didn’t really betray the country and you only attempted to do it — and they didn’t let you do it anyway — legally, then it seems to me you have a basis.” I said, “We can look into it. Writer, researcher, musician, photographer. Mosley had not been knighted, but he was the sixth baronet, with a title that had been in his family . The job’s not doing that good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DVQgFeUiuM, http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/cdm/ref/collection/po-arm/id/22591, Men of Courage: JFK Assassination Discoveries by Don Roberdeau. Today the most trendy, cutting-edge area of research is the Two Oswalds theory, which provides certain proof that some people may have too much time on their hands. Based on deep investigation of my own of credible souraces. Probably the most controversial part of Robert Oswald's testimony to the Commission. Gone. Those were important notes and they should have been documented and put in the file. Testimony pages: The Oswald Trust, p.290; Marina speaking English, p.338; The 1947 to 1948 Jump, p.282 & 291; Stripling Junior High, p.299; Thanksgiving, 1962 p.388; Visiting Lee In Jail, p.455-456 & 462. http://www.acorn.net/jfkplace/00/oswald_r.html, http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh1/html/WC_Vol1_0138b.htm. After the assassination … you see Lee in the police station, in the jail. NOTE: When interrogated by DPD Capt. Robert had also experienced more than one shock this day. When Robert heard that cabdriver William W. Scoggins had told authorities that the man he identified as Lee Harvey Oswald had muttered “poor damn cop” or “poor dumb cop” as he fled the scene of the murder of Dallas police Officer J.D. How could he not recall 1947, the year they left off at? But the facts are there. It's quite surprising that the attorney Albert Jenner allowed Robert to pass this by without correction. You’ve got all the physical evidence that ties together. The Dallas Police Department … was utter chaos. If Dr. Young's recollections are correct, and I don't doubt him, then the most likely scenario is that the bullet found by the Navy corpsmen - undoubtedly fired from a completely different rifle by a different shooter from a different location - was later "switched . The bullets that killed JFK were high velocity bullets that fragment. There is no question in my mind that he also shot Officer Tippit. Jack Ruby shot Lee Harvey Oswald at point blank range on live television while Oswald was in the custody of Dallas Police for assassinating President John F. Kennedy two days earlier. Interview: Robert Oswald. In contrast to the parade of bizarre characters at the center of this circus, Mr. Oswald always seemed to be one of the most human and one of the most relatable.I hope the minimal press coverage of his passing has been some comfort to his family. I don’t know. Robert F. Kennedy was assassinated 42 years ago in the midst of his campaign for the U.S. presidency. You'll receive access to exclusive information and early alerts about our documentaries and investigations. …. You look at all the data there, and it comes up to one conclusion as far as I’m concerned — the Warren Commission was correct. What did he have in the back of his mind? It was a game to him. We had an old black-and-white. The School Book Depository where Oswald shot Kennedy is now the Sixth Floor Museum, featuring exhibits surrounding the tragedy. They’ve got your rifle. Lee’s fantasy life, to me, became apparent in the 1948, 1949, 1950 period. The theory has been around in . He said something along the lines of "Lee Harvey Oswald or Harvey Lee Oswald" had been arrested, I was recording the show so I wasn't paying that much attention figuring I'd watch it later, which I haven . He’s failing at almost every level. He would have had more credibility than Marguerite and his, calm, measured personality would have added huge force to the movement. So why is Robert Oswald obviously covering for Marina? As we shall see in the section, this is not true–Marina was a very good English speaker and before he spoke to the Commission, Robert Oswald actually admitted to it. In fact, more witnesses attest to Lee Oswald driving a car than not. We were away from Lee during the three years of military school, only seeing him during the summer vacations or holiday-type things. Consequently, people left it wide open. Lee had high hopes when he first got back as to what he was going to do. I asked him about this lawyer in New York … and I told him I would get him one down here, meaning in Texas. There’s another seed that’s planted in him that stayed there forever. Kudlaty noticed an interesting fact–there was no letter stating where the records were sent to upon Lee Oswald leaving. And you might want to change your tone and not come across as rude. November 1, 2013 5:13pm. But this is also a tale of survival and resiliency: the story of a devout, open-hearted woman who weathered a whirlwind of investigation, suspicion, and betrayal, and who refused to allow her enmeshment in the calamity of that November to ... How would he have reacted to that? Can you sort of talk about that character trait? Actually, oops, burned. The amount was $25,000, supposedly donated from people around country. I don't trust the government on this. He was relaxed, but at about the second day, he starts talking about where he’s going. On the afternoon of November 22, 1963, Robert was working as a sales coordinator for Acme Brick in Denton, Texas, when he heard his name called as he passed the receptionist’s desk. From Russia, he had written you, saying that he was worried about charges being brought against him when he came back. And no one on the Warren Commission or their staff attorneys outs him on this. Marina's daughter, June Oswald, spoke with NBC in 1993 about her family. They didn’t finalize that. He is the older brother of Lee Harvey Oswald, and a former Marine and salesman. It's what I was told. Tippit, Robert flashed back to an earlier incident. FRONTLINE traces the U.S. response to the September 11 terrorist attacks and the devastating consequences that unfolded across three presidencies. A companion volume to The Killing of a President presents a unique photographic record of Oswald's life, from his troubled youth to his assassination, capturing the key documents, people, and events that shaped him. He could project this type of image, and he did; he tried to. Fritz, Oswald said that as he was preparing to leave the building a man with a crew cut appeared (Allman had a crew cut; NBC news correspondent Robert MacNeil had long, blond hair), showed what he believed to be Secret Service identification, and asked for the location of a telephone. Convinced that his brother was solely responsible for the assassination of John F. Kennedy, Oswald offers details in this interview about Lee’s formative years and young adult life, and describes how his brother’s love of television shows on intrigue and espionage such as I Led Three Lives, became the “training ground for his imagination.” He says that the “hard physical evidence” from the assassination leads him to one conclusion: “The Warren Commission was correct.” This interview was conducted in 1993 in conjunction with the first broadcast of FRONTLINE’s Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald? Like I believe that. Thus, began one of the most agonizing chapters of his life – being thrust into the center of one of the greatest national nightmares of the twentieth century. He toyed with people like that. One set has him in PS #44 in New York and the other set has him in Beauregard Junior high in New Orleans at the exact same time. Simpson case, or do you think just because a jury decided he was not guilty that means he's innocent too? Now I take things apart and I know more. In fact, it would have been difficult for any one to have known of this except for Robert mentioning three times. He always struck me as a sincere and honest man.He handled his predicament with great dignity and restraint. . This is mind over heart. He’s on a downhill run. Oswald was set up and Ruby was sent in to kill him and keep him . Trista - July 7, 2019. You are correct about Oswald, he was not at all innocent: he was guilty of the assassination of JFK and of the Dallas Police Office as well. Found insideThis essential volume examines the historical events leading up to and following the J.F.K. assassination and controversies surrounding the event, including the validity of the official account of the shooting and the subsequent decline of ... What did he say, and what were you trying to get out of him? A careful reading of the transcript makes it apparent that Robert is not being forthright regarding many issues and this opens up other unexpected mysteries. It was always separation, separation, separation. Also, Marina’s stenographic notebook (CE100) that was found by the Dallas Police is written in English. I am happy to be persuaded elsewise but I have too been examining this matter for decades myself and the idea that somehow Oswald was part of some grand conspiracy is just entirely baseless...…Like, for example, your own assertions about the interview notes - `I read in the NY Times...' `I read somewhere...' these things are not evidence of anything. Dulles learned that this young man also had a twin brother who was also fluent in both languages. True, no one saw him actually pull the trigger on the president but … his presence in the building was there. He knew something they didn’t know, and he would keep it to himself. He never introduced her to his mother or Lee before the wedding. His records from the fall of 1953 do as well. He wasn’t political. But there is evidence to show that there was an Oswald family living at 101 San Saba at the same time, in the summer of 1947. I couldn’t believe it. Convinced that his brother was solely responsible for the assassination of John F. Kennedy . And this is not the first time Robert makes a mention of Stripling. He never did answer. …, I think I’ve come to an understanding of Lee that I have now that I didn’t, of course … I mean, I watched the deterioration of a human being. Lee Harvey Oswald, the accused assassin of President John F. Kennedy, has remained an enigma for several decades. Born in New Orleans in 1939, Oswald's father died of a heart attack two months before he was born. Nobody was telling him whether this was good, bad or indifferent, or what the consequences of what his actions were. How can you explain one without the other? He is survived by his wife Vada, daughter Cathy and her husband Dean Barrett, and his son Robert Oswald and wife Linda. Lee wrote Marina letters in English while in the Soviet Union (Armstrong, p. 339). He was ready. On Nov. 22, 1963, Lee Harvey Oswald fired two 6.5-millimeter rounds from an Italian Carcano Fucile di Fanteria Mod. This has the appearance of deeper levels of family intrigue. FBI Director Hoover must have known as he told lead council, J. Lee Rankin, that the FBI was not going to be investigating any of Marina Oswald's financial dealings. In researching my book, The Other Oswald, I became intrigued by the connection between Robert Webster and Marina Prusakova (Oswald). He was a lonely boy, needing attention but not getting it. He really wasn’t. No, Angela, not "everyone" has tried and convicted LHO (in fact, this article refers to him as the "accused presidential assassin"). This was 1959. We were a burden. Lee Harvey Oswald's Other Guns. There are hints here and there which are never followed up on such as Robert admitting that he thought Jack Ruby knew Lee before he shot him on live TV. Ad Feedback. He knew that his brother was the murderer. She was paid a flat fee of $132,350. Found inside â Page 1Others clearly seemed noteworthy; witnesses who did seem to know something and did seem to die mysteriously. Hit List is a fair examination of the evidence of each case, leading to (necessarily) different conclusions. Those are not evidence. This image shows Lee Harvey Oswald's brother, Robert Oswald (in the grey suit), and a security escort (possibly Secret Service) leaving Parkland Hospital on Sunday, November 24, 1963, after the death of suspected assassin Lee Harvey Oswald. In order to foster a civil and literate discussion that respects all participants, FRONTLINE has the following guidelines for commentary. But I think he was disappointed. That’s the way I read him at the time. You could tell by the tone of the language, not that we could understand the Russian language, but the tone and the facial expressions … that they were having an argument. What he did after he left the building is known: bus ride, taxi ride, boardinghouse, pick up the pistol, leave, shoot the police officer. You see him for a few days when he gets out [of the Marines]. Although much has been written about Robert F. Kennedy's assassination, to date there has been no detailed medical discussion of Kennedy's injuries and treatment. … She had certain characteristics that were so much like Lee: the time and circumstances always seemed to be against her; the world owed her a living; she wanted to be somebody. I don't reveal every place I find my research except in publications. He was seeming to be pretty adamant about it. He was also set up. During the Robert Oswald's questioning by assistant counsel Albert E. Jenner, Jr., the following happens: Coming back from the break, the Commission starts qualifying the exhibits. He lived across the street from the school. Hard Copy interview with Robert Oswald (11.26.90). https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/appendix-11.htmlI saw in the NYT where after 30-odd years bits of notes were showing up. The FBI agent assigned to investigate Lee Harvey Oswald a month prior to the president's assassination presents his testimony for the first time, revealing how political intrigue prevented the relationship of Oswald and the Soviets from ... I read things like the National Archive because I like to know what everyone says. He planned by himself, he executed by himself, he failed by himself. They’ve gone to the extreme measures to prove that he owned that rifle. They’ve got the original negative. The 'Two Oswalds' Theories. … That influence was just tremendous on him. "I've got something I want to show you.". It seems from what we know about LHO, that his own brother Robert knew him quite well (as well as any brother can), and in Robert's case - after much soul-searching in the wake of the assassination, and a great deal of searching for anything that might show his brother innocent - Robert came to believe that LHO did what he was accused of for reasons that will, unfortunately, remain obscure. He never did, of course. When Lee Oswald's original casket went up for auction in 2010, Robert Oswald sued and was . After getting some help with the Secret Service as far as getting a pass up to see Lee, I was allowed to visit with him approximately eight to 10 minutes. I have read about what happened at Parkland, the night before the assassination in TX, the bodies taken for autopsy in MD. We reserve the right to not post comments that are more than 400 words. Everything – you’ve got to come all the way from childhood on up and especially that last year of his life, and understand what transpired in his life. It's as if he is ashamed of her. They’ve got your pistol. This was a part of his character, that inner self, that we used to say, “Me, myself and I will do something.”. Robert Oswald dead at 83. This would have to be at the federal level. So then what happens, and how does he get to Dallas? What do you do with his actions? This is not excusing what he did, this is. He is the older brother of Lee Harvey Oswald, and a former Marine and salesman. “This is mind over heart,” Oswald once told ABC News. … [He wanted to] get established and start the American life, live the American dream. The bizarre story behind Lee Harvey Oswald, the man accused of assassinating U.S. President John F. Kennedy in Dallas, Texas on November 22, 1963, and what might have happened had he been brought to trial. 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